Most of the junior apologists [or punters as I like to call them,] I’ve talked to on social media who are evolution deniers hew to Doctor Craig’s every breath and thought.
“Doctor, doctor give me the news
I’ve got a bad case of lovin’ you
No pill’s gonna cure my ill
I’ve got a bad case of lovin’ you…
Very few of them bother to delve into what he really thinks and believes beyond the lucrative speaking circuit, because if they did, they’d discover some embarrassing contradictions. And if they thought about the logical consequences of his views, they’d be less likely to promote them publicly.
From his website “Reasonable Faith”
Transcript from podcast: Creation Out of Nothing
Kevin Harris: Dr. Craig, Christianity teaches creation ex nihilo. What does that mean?
Dr. Craig: Creation out of nothing. It means that God didn’t use any material stuff in creating the world but that he created the stuff itself.
Kevin Harris: Much like the scientist who went before God and said, “God, we can do anything that you can.” And God said, “Show me.” “Well, we can make a life.” God said, “Show me.” “Well, first we get a bunch of dirt.” And God said, “Wait a minute. Get your own dirt!” It really is that kind of a thing. So there was no material for God to use to create. He created the material itself?
Dr. Craig: Yes, that is exactly right. That is the doctrine.
Got that? God created something from nothing. Incidentally, over 50% of white Evangelical religionists in the US are taught this doctrine in their churches and claim it to be the truth.
According to PEW Research:
On the other hand….Craig holds to the principle ex nihilo nihil fit, “out of nothing, nothing comes,” saying that this “is as certain as anything in philosophy and that no rational person sincerely doubts it.” Furthermore, he has also claimed that “it is impossible that nothing exists.” Citing Leibniz’s view of God as a “logically necessary being,” Craig goes on to say that “there is no possible world in which nothing exists.”
Hmmm. I’m beginning to see an un-explainable paradox here. OR both those positions can’t be true. Also, any claim that god exists immaterially free of the laws of matter, time, and space are logically inconsistent because god would then be indistinguishable from nothing which he claims can’t exist.
I guess that’s why they say “god works in mysterious ways.” Craig is equally weak in explaining the contradictory ideas that “everything that exists has a cause” and “nothing caused god to exist.” Instead we get Gish gabble.
Now, if christians would like, we can have a discussion about cause in relation to the beginning of the universe once we’ve moved god from the numinous into a definable reality that has properties that can be described and tested.